. Most modern revolvers chambered for .38 SPL are rated to +P, so there is room for error, but care must still be taken. Try. You can't rely on this because not all variables for YOUR cases and chamber and loading length, etc. swatmag.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. [.38 Special] is a very versatile and useful round. If all you practice with is the easy comfortable stuff, its not really practice. It would have been too hot. May 15, 2012. kc2za said: Hi All, I have been loading .38 spl with 2.7 gr. In half a dozen different sixguns, it ranged from accurate to spectacular. of Bullseye, 148 gr lead DEWC and Federal 100 primers. WITH THE SWAGED BULLETS REDDING SELLS A PROFILE CRIMP DIE. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. I think the 158 lrn is more accurate then the swc but that's just me. Soft shooting. My Lyman 49th has data for 125 gr JHP and 120 gr LRN. 38 Special 17,000 Use data for weight. A 158 SWCHP at 850-875 fps from a snub. I've been reading about this. Others Have reported some success but few have more than one or two loads. I dunno. I have several manuals and some say that this load is a low +p, some say it is not, but it is very accurate. Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. But still nothing under 3.5". The gun has appeared on TTAG before and has remained unchanged as far as accessories. As an old bullseye guy I've stuck with Bullseye powder for almost 30yearsusing lead bullets. I keep thinking about trading it for a Model 27 or, maybe, one of the new Pythons for extra weight. Love my 642 for concealed carry, but have an SP101 (also a snubby) in .38 special (only) for use on the range. Ive probably picked up 300 cases of .38 the past few months and will continue to grab them as I see them, but whats nice is I can shoot more and put that money towards brass for .32 or .45 Colt, stuff that I never see at the range. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I use 158 grain coated RNFP and don't use any of those powders that you list. 6.) Good shootin! accuracy. Like Wobbly. Brass collection is easy since it doesnt eject. Hence I carry a semi-auto pistol chambered in .40 S&W. Javascript is required. Data will be standard "book" .38 Special data and I'll not attempt to "hotrod" the loads. Me too! Many people tend to poo-poo .38 Special (standard pressure) for self-defense as being somehow underpowered. 3 gr of WST in a 38 spl case with 125 gr plated bullet is a very light load. The load you use will be up to your gun. This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. I started reloading 38 special as my first cartridge 8 years ago when I was 22, soooo.I have an old mans soul? 32 S&W Long 15,000 Really interested in getting the. The stuff you learn shooting 20,000 reloads (on top of thousands of rounds of factory ammo) can be pretty interesting and I feel that Ive got a very good picture of what the .38 Special. Read my very long thread about "DR loads that don't suck". Robert Frost. WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. .38 brass isnt as common as 9, .40, or .45 brass at the range, but of all the revolver brass you can find its the most plentiful. Speer shows 3.9 to 4.5 grains for a double end lead wadcutter but I'm thinking that may be a little strong for a plated bullet. Ive played with several that I like, but the classic in 9mm is 4.4 grains driving a 115-grain jacketed bullet. Tim: The Lyman 49th edition lists the accuracy loads for their cast bullets. Red Dot work fine for most 38 Special loads. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Allgoodhits Posts : 726 Join date : 2017-09-17 Location : Northern Virginia Like Go figure. IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. My J frame S&Ws are all older models, and came with the small grips that are still on some models. Using higher pressure loads will wear brass out faster and it will become brittle with time. Notes: primer: CCI 500; case: Speer; NOTE: All loads are maximum. I use 2.8-3.0 grains of Bullseye or AA#2 with 158 gr. YOU WOULD BE WASTING YOUR TIME TRIMMING THE BRASS. 38 special is a great cartridge. From my Hornady Third Edition manual 38 Special 158 Grain Lead Round Nose #3586 Win 231 3.0 Grains 650 FPS 4.4 Grains 850 FPS Now I will tell you from experience you do NOT want to load Lead Bullets Fast. 38 spl.s. As I researched loads in the meantime, I kept seeing the same several popping up again and again in sources from as recent as yesterday to long out of print books from when air travel was a newfangled wonder. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P. Of course, these will be used in a revolver. I probably shoot more 38s than everything else put together but a Dillon 750 makes loading a lot faster. I have found that if you go down too low in charge you will have some ignition issues occasionally. I will always love the 38 SPL (never cared much for 357 Mag), but that 3 seven shot Charter with both 32 S&W Long and 32 H&R Mag is truly the bees knees. I do this for my .357s but this article is about .38 Special loads. A bullet with a copper gas check or copper plating is best for INDOOR ranges to keep lead vapors out of the air. Therefore, your platform yields a lot of safety cushion with target loads. 1.455 in. Softer alloys of lead are just easier on the machinery. If there is only ONE load, it is MAX. The .38 ammo is more common to find than the .44 ammo, so that is a big reason to reload the .44. It will then fit in your 38 Special gun. This load tends to clock about 670 feet-per-second (fps) give or take 20, depending on the exact brand of wadcutter and the revolver its fired in. IMHO .38 special is just fine for self defense, but just not enough to crack engine blocks. 5 are good choices. When I finally got my hands on a pound of Bullseye, I naturally started with some of these loads. I have read some posts online from people who claim that it makes no difference whether the bullets are swaged or cast; and they can be loaded to the same velocity, but the swaged bullets will lead up a barrel faster because the lead is softer. There really is a recently developed technology that prevents leading, while eliminating messy lubricants. revolver, with a 3 barrel, and 4 6 oz. Power Pistols works well in short auto cartridges and higher pressure cartridges but no so well with a 158 grain bullets in 38 Special. Something like the Ruger GP100 or S&W 686 yup, theyre the best caliber for those size revolvers. 2 and No. 158 gr. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. Did you cross post the bullet weight? Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 9 customer ratings. : 1.475" Powder: 6.0 gr 6.9 gr Vel. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Bullseye and NRA Distinguished Revolver Content . There is one good reason to use WST. For me, the 32 H&R Mag is my 357 Mag, and the 32 S&W Long is my 38 SPL. I never really set my sights, in a manner of speaking, on the .38 cartridge like I did other rounds. Dec 18, 2011. 594/600 at the real distances of 24 rnds at 50 yds, 24 rnds at 25 yes, and 12 rnds at 7.5 yds. Paste as plain text instead, The 38 Special, practically snubnose 38 Specials, seem to do their best work with bullets right around the 155-160 grain range. So I'd think you should find a decent load for short line at about 700 Fps and for the long line at about 800. Just dont shoot a rabbit with this load if you want to be able to eat any of it. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted. These grips seem quite comfortable and afford a pinkie finger rest for improved control albeit with a certain loss of concealability. I've tried Berry's plated as well as Remington. rattlesnake of a revolver made me bleed. Starting being near 3gr - ish. A handgunner using .38 Specials is set for targets, plinking and small game while .357 Mag. I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. If she had shot more, I would have probably bought another set of dies, to prevent the need for changing adjustments between the two. Bullseye is one of the oldest smokeless pistol powders and still one of the most popular. Load it like Trail Boss. I agree with your .38 Special assessment points for the very same reasons. (bullseyeforum.net). ammunition in the same gun enables that shooter to hunt larger game and to fend off beasts that snarl. Im a big fan of .32 revolvers, I do think they are a superior choice for carrying and shooting than .38 is, but that doesnt mean I think .38 or .357 sucks, I just dont think theyre the best choices for a small frame revolver. I have a few 30-30 cases modified to shoot singles with a very light load. Its the only gun that has appreciated in value (as long as you ignore inflation). The only way to shoot both 9mm and .38 special is to have two separate cylinders timed to the revolver. I get okay accuracy with 4.4 of W-W 231 and 125s, depending on what bullet is used. But I found 2.4 and 2.7 interesting at 25 yards off the sandbags. 4.2 gr. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. I use Bullseye powder but it's about the same burn rate. Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. Groups with these loads ranged from 1.25 inches to just under two inches at 25 yards across a handful of pistols. But I think I was still loading the cases from that first box when I quit loading 18 years later! I also find the LCR .357 enjoyable to shoot with all .38s and most .357s. In several of the guns, the old standby couldnt quite duplicate the level of precision they exhibit with current production wadcutters from Black Hills or Winchester, but in each case, the load shot close to or right on the sights and nearly held the X ring. A cold header, at their basic level, are multi ton power presses laying down on their side. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. I just bought a Lyman mold 160 round nose with a crimp groove. Years back, for indoor matches I teamed the heavier S&W Model 28 with 3.4 grains of the same powder and bullet in . Reloading Data for .38 Special - Load Data - 1895Gunner. DR loads (158gr Remington swaged LSWC over 3.6gr AA#2 in Winchester .38 Special cases) I shoot American eagle, remington factory,remington umc, and mag tech. Ive saved all my .38 brass over the last couple of years for whenever I find time to get into reloading. Your email address will not be published. Very little recoil, and grouped acceptably out to 15 yards or so. What overal length of the cartridge? Im still new to reloading, having done 2500 38 spl with bullseye. 38 Special, all bullet weights Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source 110gr JHP! If there is a search function for these forums (didn't see one) I'd be happy to use that too Go to the Alliant website and find the data for Unique and Bullseye. Just got back into reloading 38 special again after a long hiatus with no revolver, and was instantly reminded of what a joy it is to reload. The reason I love the .38 SPL so much is because its so elastic in function. Like the author said, I consider it a garbage disposal round as you can load it with almost anything with good results. The load is a great learning tool in .45 for beginner and experienced alike. Horrible 5-12" groups at 25 yds. That isnt unique to Bullseye, but is certainly more pronounced with the relatively small charges required. Wes, SASS Wire rules prohibit posting specific load data on the forum, but it can be passed along via private message or email. Main issue is that the .44 spl. RN, 160 gr. 3 1/2" average not included flyers which seem to happen on every group test. Your link has been automatically embedded. The .38 Special is the most popular of all centerfire revolver cartridges. How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. I'm asking the above questions because I don't want to run too hot of a load, but wasn't sure if it was ok to drop down below 2.8 as far as 2.5. Thanks for your help. When using a 158 gr. Both have fed 100% in a variety of pistols and have shot very well. Classics go well together: circa 1909 S&W .38 Special and traditional 148-grain wadcutter load of 2.7 grains of Bullseye. The jump straight to relatively hot GI hardball challenged many students, and failure to meet standards meant being dropped from the course. Great gun. was a breeze. Installed some wood boot grips, modified them with grooves at the bottom of each side panel, similar to those on Pach. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. The cases are large enough that they can be easily manipulated by inexperienced hands and yet small enough to not require much force in the sizing stage. I carry my M642 extensively, but I only shoot it occasionally because it is a snappy little b!tch with standard loads. In my time with the cartridge, I have come to appreciate the mid to low end of the power spectrum and thus have made extensive use of Trail Boss powder and bullets such as Hornadys .358 158gr SWC. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. Hornady also has load data for the 110-grain .357 XTP for the lower-pressure .38 Automatic. The 4.0 grain load is relatively mild recoil and was accurate. Don't worry too much about lead/coated/plated/jacketed. These are put into a large hydraulic press and extruded into a continuous coil of wire. No. Unlike the author, I did *not* keep records, I cant even imagine how many rounds I loaded, almost 100% .357 magnum, since that was all I shot. The Pistol a Smith and Wesson model 27-2 The goal is two fold. for 38 special There are many fun uses for buckshot. I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, The 38 Special Ball round was designed a long time ago to comply with specifications laid down for ammo that was : 1) Compliant with the Hague Accords of 1907 in regard to "unnecessarily" injurious ammunition. Too early Are you sure? I just got some clays which I heard was very clean burning compare to bullseye. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion. 3.) You are absolutely correct. But its also worth considering that its pushing the same size and weight projectile at the same velocity as the standard Army revolver load during the Civil War. You trade a little less speed for a little more mass but at snubnose velocities I really think the standard 158 grain slug gives the best penetration. Between that, some other info on other forums, Winchester's data for a lead flat point, and numbers from loaddata.com, I think I have some to start with. Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. While I wish I could carry a 5 .45 WITNESS with several 10 round mags, as a senior citizen, the S&W J frame is my user friendly alternate. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. Or does the CMP make the rules for DR, and the NRA admins it? I will start ouy at the minimum velocity then. Accurate's No. The other .38 Special is a 4 Colt Diamondback. Just look for a lead remover tool with bronze screens. Always make sure your lead bullets have been sized and lubricated. We look at three classics: one each in .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9mm. VV N320, N330 and N340 are products of VihtaVouri Oy Company This represents a great start, and if thats all you do, youll still be far better off than the majority of the population. All newly manufactured .38 Special revolvers must be proof tested to the same higher proof . The .38 with careful selection of components can be the cats as* for almost any shooter. If I get to see him shoot those loads, it would be worth the price of a new keyboard! I can usually keep 1.5" groups with it at 25 yards if I do my part. Shoots well in my K-38, 686, and a friend's K-38 at 50 yards in the Ransom rest. I've been using the same powders forever. This wire is then fed into a machine called a cold header. Note: More and more test are conducted with all rounds fired with powder UP against the primer for each shot, or DOWN on the bullet for each shot, then gently bring to horizontal to shoot. Load shot well out of a variety of service handguns. All three of those powders have published load data for that weight bullet in .38 Special. 25 Auto 32 H&R Magnum 32 Auto 32 S&W Long 357 Magnum 38 Special 38 Special +P 38 Super Auto +P 380 Auto 40 S&W 44 Rem. I recently bought trail boss and it runs fine out of my 14-3. The powder charges used for .38 are forgiving. Alliant Pistol/Revolver Load Data: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Below, are three loaded rounds. My personal loads for practice replicate my carry. Have not confirmed the difference with a chronograph. My other son fired one shot and handed it back. I soon traded off a Colt Frontier Scout .22 LR for an S&W Model 15 and happily chased all manner of small game and landfill targets with my stash of wadcutters. A longer case, with have a tighter crimp them a shorter one, what will lead to variations in pressure, and accuracy. Its worth mentioning that loaders do all kinds of obsessive rituals to squeeze the groups down. is limited to either the various Charter Arms models, or as a training/target load in a .44 magnum size handguns. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The 36s greater weight makes it much easier to shoot than the 638. butt 686 shipped w/ Hogue monogrips, discarded immediately due to pronounced finger grooves. JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet). I only wish the brass was more available locally. Designed in 1898, the .38 Smith & Wesson Special cartridge went on . As I said I am not familiar with your frame and suspect it is one of the latest models out by Smith. in a belt holster at 4:00. I have two editions of it from different years that have that data. 32 H&R Mag 21,000 4.0 gr. Bullseye is a little smoky, a lot sooty, and has a distinct odor. I like Bullseye in the 38 Special, and it was a consistent performer with the 125 grain bullets. I fired 3 Remington 125 SJHP 357s from a 340 and thought i had nerve damage in my hand. Maybe its just my age, but I may never shoot a 38 again after discovering the 32. Ive been shooting them for 50 years. During my first half century on this planet, my caliber of choice for defense was 45 ACP- but for everything else it was always 38 SPL. 7, No. I dont bother polishing my .38 brass because I just dont let it fall in the mud or dirt. JHP, 158 gr. ,I looked at Speer data, nothing there. Super cheap and easy to make and would likely be a very effective defense ammo against wildlife that might be a threat to me as the two balls will spread an inch or two from each other at close range. WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets, Re: WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets. It is also one of the most pleasurable loads a shooter can touch off. Use the lead bullet loads with the plated and you will be fine. .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. Haven't tried it in the Colt Officer's Model Match yet. Do you folks think a start at 3.0 gr and work up from there with a 125 gr bullet would be a safe load. .38 Special +P (Alliant Reloaders Guide) Warning! They are true classics, and I hope you get as much use out of them! Zero 158 grain swaged SWC, Starline brass, Winchester or Federal primer, 2.8 grains of Bullseye, roll crimp. Thats what the Cavalry Board asked for over a century ago, and thats what weve got. (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. Some medium fast powders would work with lighter weight bullets. Here's what the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook says for cast 125g flatpoint for 38 in the powders you mentioned. Where many shooters quickly tire of even standard-pressure .38 in the little five-shooters, the wadcutter invites cylinder after cylinder of practice. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. Thanks for the excellent article, Josh! I don't know what bullets you have, but Berry's recommends per their website to use hard cast data for their plated bullets. These were one each in .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9mm. Posted: 4/17/2014 10:53:09 AM EST. head I use 3.2gr. These types of guns are not as strong as more modern solid frame revolvers. 3.8 gr. Thanks to all for the info. This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. Compac for my little finger to wrap around under the butt. There have been guns Ive bought for the caliber, but the .38 wasnt one of those. (For those who would. I.E. TITEGROUP AND 125GR 38 SPECIAL LOAD DATA Ammunition-Gunsmithing Reloading Forum Register Notices Consider Becoming A Supporting Member Click HERE For The Benefits Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here Thread Tools Display Modes # 1 01-24-2016, 05:38 AM RONALD HENSLEY Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Waynesville NC Posts: 114 Likes: 12 So it is my gut feeling that Winchester found it to be touchy in smaller calibers like 38 special and 9mm Luger. 300 Blackout Fine-Tuning: Finding the Right Barrel Length for Your Rifle. I have tried several different grips before finding the one that worked for me. 01-10-2014, 06:49 PM #4. dverna. Thx so it seems like for the long line I need to get some sagged bullets. I always used mixed brass because it was all I had. It is less of an issue on a progressive press, but still requires attention. I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. I thought the DR program was NRA, not CMP. Have a Tritium sight and laser on it to boot. Last I looked still available at Brownells. 1.) I completely understand the respect for the performance of the 327 Fed, but not being a big fan of the 357 Mag (or 38 SPL plus P for that matter) I havent been drawn to the 327. The .38 Special remains very popular for personal protection and Michelle Hamilton shares her thoughts on the top loads for concealed carry, like this 158-grain SWCHP FBI Load, based on her testing. Not sure how that translates to Bullseye powder. 11/2/2022. . Thats a pretty clear explanation and comparison of the NEEDS of the strength of the chamber for each caliber. I havent shot too many full house Casull loads, but I get a huge grin when shooting my reduced loads of 7.5grs of Trail Boss under a Cast Performance 360gr WLFN. 7.) Ideal load in a 2 J Frame .38. I stopped handloading around 1985, so Im not certain how much technology has changed in that area, but in general it sounds like our experiences are similar. And it isnt my first rodeo with a J-frame. I am aware of the plated bullet limitations on BE accuracy and am more interested in them for their "plinkability". The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. The only reason that my standard (everyday carry) self-defense handgun is not a .38 Special revolver is because I can conceal a semi-auto better (it isnt as fat as the cylinder on a revolver) and my semi-auto has 15 rounds of hard-hitting 180 grain bullets. This load chugs downrange at 750 feet each second and functions standard recoil springs with no issue. Interestingly, I had pistols that would shoot one well and the other impressively, but have not yet had one pistol do magic with both. However, after consulting my several different manuals, 3.5 seems to be a border line max load. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 5.0 gr unique with berry's 125gr = .38 Special squibs (solved ! The covered blackstrap and extended length Compac design I reckon are major factors in reducing perceived recoil. Many of these men had no real experience with the handgun, and we had but a few weeks to get them up to very high standards that most shooters will never reach. of Bullseye with Lee's 125gr RN mold in a 38 special with so-so accuracy. On my J frame S&W without the CT #305 Laser Grips, I swapped out to a Hoque set. Bullseye is the classic pistol powder and the backbone of many pet loads. 2) Ammo that would work in the Air Force's Air Crewman Colt's and Smith and Wesson revolvers that had weak alloy cylinders. Load it in 38 Special dies. While I do have a GP100 in .357 magnum, I dont like shooting .38 special ammo out of it, because cleaning powder residue out of the longer chambers is a real bitch. Bonus is the CT #305 grips are both large enough to be actually useful, and can use the laser, or turn it off if you dont need the laser. As a young man, I came into a couple of cases of hand-me-down factory mid-range wadcutters. Thats not quite how that works. I'm not looking to blow up my old model 10. Ethan Johns is a military professional with worldwide experience in specialized units. I did find a 145 grain Lead HP with a rounded ogive (like the last NyClad) on Gunbroker that opens really well if you get above 800 fps. And.those Hornady 158 HPs are easy to reload but I have never had one open up in a varmint of any sort. The floor does not apply for PPC, or the equivalent match for Action Pistol. . If you have the means, I highly recommend you trying one out. Bullseye or Titegroup cover 90% or more of my .38 Special loadings. It was introduced in 1902 by Smith & Wesson, and has since become a worldwide cartridge. Two years into my second century a Colt MK IV Series 80 LTWT Commander 45 ACP still delivers the big medicine, but I have become enthralled with a new wheel gun- a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R Magnum. The load you use will be up to your gun. I found some data for 148 and 158 gr bullets but no published data on the 125s. When I say that theres rarely a wrong way to do it, I really mean it. No sh!t. Bullseye Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. Recoil is mild enough that for many years it was the golden choice for the next introductory step for young or new shooters after rimfire. Ive been reloading and shooting for over 40 years and love revolvers but 90% of the time my carry gun is a Sig 365 with a 12 round mag and a spare. Ive not had a handgun entirely reject either load, so the recipe seems to be a worthy third alongside the previous .38 and .45. )Lastly, the .38 SPL has a very large following and materials can be had readily. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. A GI surplus 1911 that puts most loads into dinner-plate sized groups cut 3.8 inches with the classic recipewhich is probably the only time Ive gotten excited about an almost four-inch group! I load these bullets to the edge of the shoulder and use anywhere from 3-4 grains of TB. Testing out some bullseye with 125 berry's bullets.. They have a large selection about the hard cast loads from 90 to 170 gains. And, oh yeah. The cowboy loads would be good choices as listed, since these ARE reduced loads for that sport, where usually just hitting a metal plate to make a sound is all that is required of the round. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. Its just two lubed balls on top of each other with the top ball roll crimped just past the hemisphere. Home About Partners Contact. An early Les Baer .45 knotted a group of the lead SWCs into a tight 1.3-inch group, while an M&P .45 did 1.25 inches. Ive also switched from lead to Berrys Preferred copper plated bullets. The .44 spl. Do not use anything but light loads and lead bullets in these older revolvers. Would you like to react to this message? I'm looking for some recipes for 38 special for a 125 grain copper plated (like Berry's) flat point bullet using Unique, Bullseye, or W231. The 9mm produces about 35,000 psi, Even better, is get some 38 S&W brass. Wife handled it with no problem, those 5 Super Vel had been in the gun probably over 5 years by then, she bought it to CARRY, not to shoot, if she needed to fire it to save her life it would be fine.
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