Cache Carlson was on the phone and he was telling me about his next build. Editors Note: I remember the conversation like it was yesterday. While this certainly can be used for PRS and tactical competition, the 22 Creedmoor seems to be ideally suited as a high velocity varmint round something to replace the 22-250. Along with more than 25 other calibers, Peterson Cartridge now offers casings in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, .25 Creedmoor, and .22 Creedmoor. A .498 G1 BC would make this an excellent long-range predator option. In a matter of a few minutes a pair of coyotes appeared on the ridge line about 1 1/2 miles out and almost directly aligned with our gun barrels. My 22creed is one of them. The results were interesting to say the least. Similarly, this increase in velocity could have caused the SD and ES to increase. The bbl I have coming is an 8 twist, so the 95's are out of the question. MAGPRO produced a .59-inch group at 2,979 fps with 43.5 grains of powder. They are very well made and are always consistent. Alliant Reloder 23 proved quite compatible with the .22 CM, with 39.5 grains at 3,076 fps producing a .45-inch group, and 40.5 grains at 3,114 fps the smallest group of the entire test, .25 inch with only a 22-fps extreme velocity spread. Redding was kind enough to send us a full 3-die set for this reloading project. Bergers 90-grain VLD Target and 44 grains of Vihtavuori N565 produced this .30-inch group at 3,100 fps. I have a Remington VSSF chambered in 220 Swift that I am not impressed with the accuracy with (it's about 3/4) MOA, so not terrible but not real impressive either. That combination worked well when distances exceeded 400 yards, especially when prairie winds stir. Add two grains of powder and velocity increases to 3,400 fps. JavaScript is disabled. AZZA Flatlander The Kimber Open Country rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor wears a 24-inch barrel to wring every last bit of velocity from the cartridge. As built by LRI,Long Rifles, Inc.out of Sturgis, S.D., the rifle is a turn-bolt tack driver set up very much like most upper grade long range rifles we see as custom-built field tools. This rockchuck was huge and obviously spent his life gorging on the pasture grass where the ranchers cows grazed. The powder seemed to build up pressure for no apparent reason. I had a great .25 moa load at 41 gr but after about 50rds the velocity jumped 100fps and the bolt started getting sticky and I had to drop the load a full grain. 17 Leonberg Road, Suite 100Cranberry Township, PA 16066. Vihtavuoris N565 did best as velocity increased, with 43 grains at 3,100 fps printing .55 inch and 44 grains at 3,169 fps grouping into .30 inch. ), assuring this outfit would shoot its very best. We were fighting very strong winds, with gusts up to 35mph! Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. Shooters World Long Rifle proved a good match for the .22 Creedmoor. Mike Barton https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/22-creedmoor.6255624/page-4#post-7515373, How to get to max velocity with unknown data, 42g H4350 (avg 3500 fps) *brass showing signs of pressure* (how ever this load is EXTREAMLY accurate for my rifle), 37.5 Reloader 23 (avg 3215 fps) ***tightest group***, 38.5g Shooters World H4350 (avg 3094 fps), 38.5 N555 (avg 3183 fps) ***EXTREAMLY ACCURATE and ZERO pressure signs*** will be cranking this load up and will update on speed/pressure, 41g H4350 (avg 3506 fps) some ejector swipe marks *some signs of pressure* (VERY accurate load for my rifle), 40.5 g H4350 (avg 3564 fps) bullets broke apart before 100 yards, 41g H4350 (avg 3578 fps) bullets broke up before 100 yards. This topic has been deleted.
We then took the same load and used standard large rifle primers instead. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']);
Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Smith, along with Lakota guide Big John Willcuts, locked down their bipods on a ridgeline about 600 yards off to our right. He concluded it worked best as a varminter, but could also do PRS duty, provided it is loaded under the 3200 fps velocity limit common in PRS matches. Now you can own a small frame AR10 rifle chambered in .22 Creedmoor. You get 22-250 class velocities with a more modern cartridge design, and high-quality brass. John Whidden produces some of the most precise and well-built custom reloading dies you can purchase. I used RL26 almost exclusively and found it to be a little bit touchy. 22 LR Muzzle Velocity: 22 long rifle muzzle velocity is the speed with which a bullet leaves the barrel measured in feet per second (FPS). The 22 Creedmoor round is just too darn good to pass up, and yes, I see the same pattern in future factory rifles developing. When varmint hunting, small caliber bullets going extremely fast, most always results in quick, clean, kills and DRT animals. Move up two more grains or powder, the velocity steps up to 3,400 fps and downrange it tends to fight wind like very few other bullets. An extra grain of powder broke 3,000 fps but opening that group to an even inch. They are also the operator of the .22 Creedmoor Facebook page located at https://www.facebook.com/22CreedmoorRifles/. This takes place not with the Swifts lightweight 55-grain bullets, but heavy weights that run into the 75- and 80-plus grain weights. This new cartridge is just a step away from a wildcat round. how does barrel length affect bullet drop? The only changes Ive encountered in handloading for this cartridge was with my second test rifle a scratch-build custom from Satterlee Arms in Deadwood, South Dakota. Referencing QuickLoad data for Bergers 85.5-grain Long Range Hybrid Target bullet (supplied by friends at Capstone Precision), comparing Alliant Reloder 26, Norma MRP and Vihtavuori N560 velocities to what Ive produced in the real world, Ive easily matched projected maximum velocities. Start low and work up. Using 43 grains of VV-N560 produced a .58-inch group at 3,295 fps. Since its inception in 2007, the 6.5 Creedmoordeveloped by Hornadyhas seen meteoric growth in its popularity. Sierras 77-grain Tipped MatchKing (.420 BC) is a design Ive come to depend on for long-range varmint shooting. Reviewer Jeff Cramblit built a 22 Creedmoor rifle and tested it with a variety of bullet weights. This new round is getting the attention of predator and varmint hunters, because it tends to send the mail well down range with accuracy that is nothing less than outstanding. With the below loads, we did have to shorten the COAL of the round slightly to fit into our universal receiver. That proves out how flat the trajectory is with this cartridge/bullet combo. As a rule the faster the muzzle velocity the shorter the bullets time in flight and there for a flatter trajectory and less drop. Besides having created a ton of helpful articles on reloading, and shooting in general, Primal Rights also produces and sells some advanced reloading equipment and rifle parts. At that moment, I knew this combo would work for my varmint hunting needs! This leaves .22-250 Ackley Improved data as a viable starting point. There are 437.5 grains in one ounce. The first was for the coyotes and varmints previously mentioned. While there are variations in the level of bullet performance depending on elevation and other related atmospheric conditions, the bottom line is this new cartridge is in the class of very fast movers down range. Daniel Y Relatively slow-burning powders were chosen to accommodate the .22 Creedmoors overbore dynamics, leaning heavily on temperature stable formulas and/or those with de-coppering agents when possible. ELD Match 80269 2790 2564 2349 2144 1950 1764 1262 1066 . For example, shooting the 22 Creedmoor with a moderate handload and Hornadys 75-grain ELD, the bullet leaves the pipe at 3,200 fps and that is not on the hot side for this cartridge. Along with more than 25 other calibers, Peterson Cartridge now offers casings in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, .25 Creedmoor, and .22 Creedmoor. My average shot on coyotes is between 200 and 300 yards and about the same on crows. However some ammo-makers are producing 22 Creedmoor loaded ammo right now: Copper Creek, Gunwerks, and Spark Munitions. Anything in the 100 to 300 yard range has become a chip-shot, with my success rate being at least 90%. Price for a 22 Creedmoor build really depends on components selected. Cache Carlson What would be the advantages or disadvantages of a 22 Creedmore? energy at a recoil velocity of 12 fps.
22 Creedmoor may not be useful for PRS since velocity is limited at a maximum of 3200 fps, and most guys using 6mm are using heavier bullets and still getting around 3050-3100 fps. Ammo Description Velocity (fps) Energy (ft/lb) Trajectory Tables (inches) CARTRIDGE BULLET ITEM # MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd M 223 Rem 68 gr. The second was for shooting PRS (Precision Rifle Series) style matches on occasion, and the third was for hunting deer-sized game. One of the best groups of the entire .22 Creedmoor load test included Bergers 85.5-grain Long Range Hybrid Target bullet over 42 grains of Alliant Reloder 26. It's all about looking at speed and BC together. To take it one step farther I've been told to use 220 swift info to load the 22-250ai. The custom Surgeon rifle featured a 22-inch barrel, and I decided to shoot the test without the suppressor attached (i.e. In some instances, the velocity SD and ES might improve or worsen, depending on where you are in relation to a consistent velocity node in your particular rifle. The 22 Creedmoor will come standard with a 1-in-7-inch fast-twist barrel, and combined with the increased volume inside its case, you can push those long pills over at 3,450 feet per second! I currently have H-1000, H4831SC,and Retumbo on hand, as well as federal 210-m primers and virgin Hornady 22 Creed brass. In particular, their 77 Gr SMK, 80 Gr SMK, 90 Gr SMK, and 95 Gr SMK are great. We then tested those loads in our universal receiver so we could record a pressure for each load. That was followed by a strange movement of air that tracked through the cold very far off, then stopped abruptly with a thud-like sound. The newest introduction to the lineup is a 90-grain, .22-caliber bullet with an astounding .585 BC and the highest that will reliably stabilize in a 1:7 twist. .22 Creedmoor Velocity: 3277 FPS 5.56 NATO Velocity: 2859 FPS (from 26 barrel) From the manufacturer: Introducing Mead 5.56 X45 77gr BTHP, Match quality ammunition from our friends at MEAD INDUSTRIES! What is the difference between the 22 Creedmoor and the 22 Cheetah? This was a large rockchuck, sunning himself on the top of some rimrock. var __dcid = __dcid || [];
This also creates a different beast altogether, including higher maximum pressures (based on SAMMI 6mm CM numbers). David Hillis I need to get some better glass if I am going to reach out farther consistently. Riley Baxter Firearm/Ammo Reviews The advent of the 6mm Creedmoor immediately had folks necking the hornady 6mm down to 22 cal and upon doing so found virtually the perfect case capacity for heavy weight .224 bullets. I've got a 22-250 AI that I'll be working with soon, as well as my dad's 22 Creed he just had built. Thirty-five grains beneath a 77-grain Tipped MatchKing produced this .46-inch, five-shot 100-yard group. For those i started at the Coal copper creek uses and moved all the way up to .010 off the lands. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Terry Fauth (left) and JimSmith called and dropped this coyote at 1,017 yards with Smith's custom 22 Creedmoor during bullet testing in central South Dakota. I don't have my 22 CM yet, but I do have a 6CM and tried rl 26 with the 115's. We found him piled up in nook around 12 yards away. Horizon Firearms, located in College Station, Texas, produces some of the finest bolt action firearms on the market today. Fundamentally, we believe that reducing/slowing the twist rate in your rifle (e.g. If you have any other specific questions just let me know. Remington's "Deadliest Mushroom" comes with improved accuracy, flatter trajectory, and enhanced terminal ballistics with the new Big Green polymer tip. I ran this brass through Hornadys Custom Grade full-length dies, uniformed necks on my old Lyman Universal trimmer and chamfered each mouth on Hornadys Lock-N-Load Case-Prep Trio. You get 22-250 class velocities with a more modern cartridge design, and high-quality brass. The R17 gave me everything I was looking for and availability at the time was not an issue. He shot this water-filled aluminum can at 200 yards. I suspect the rifle will be a target-grade turn-bolt with the chamber set back a bit for tight chambering of a bore rider with cut rifling. 2023 Grand View Outdoors All Rights Reserved We have compiled the data below. Although H4350 works well in the .22 Creedmoor when using mid-weight bullets, it does tend to cause pressure spikesearlier than, say, RL26when you are using heavy-for-caliber bullets like the Sierra 90 grain and 95 grain MatchKing. Hegstrom prepared the blank, producing a 26-inch finished length with muzzle threads to accept a suppressor, included a recoil lug and trued the action and bolt head. Please check out his website at https://www.whiddengunworks.com/. bullets and fast twist rifling, usually 1:8 or even 1:7.5. Magnum primers increased our velocity standard deviation (SD) and extreme spread (ES) by 7 fps and 14 fps, respectively. Federal GM-215M Primers. We then fired both sets of 5 rounds and recorded the pressure and velocity for each round. Looking at what was available at the time, I decided to work with one of my favorite bullets, the Sierra 64 grain Tipped Game King. Timothy Mancillas, Contributing/Guest Writers Although the Nosler and Valkyrie, shooting 55-60 grain projectiles, have a decent following with the predator hunting crowd, running the ballistics on the .22 Creedmoor and a slightly heavier bullet showed that it would outperform the two with both speed and energy. I figured if i can find the right COAL while breaking in the barrel it would be a plus. I tried contacting Hornady for starting load data but was told they simply have no data for the 22 Creed. Another way we provide support is by investing in the equipment necessary to test the products we produce, so we can provide technical information to those who need it. Reloder 17 Powder Also, please try our new extremely accurate loaded At the time of this writing, the .22 Creedmoor is still considered a wildcat cartridge since it has not yet been formally adopted by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI). It includes a .524 BC and accuracy-enhancing construction. Again, these loads are just designed to give shooters information regarding what velocity a bullet and powder charge combination will produce given the SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) of 62,000 psi. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
When I had the opportunity to hold a 6mm Creedmoor next to a .22-250 Remington, my assumptions proved somewhat overblown. This GunsAmerica photo shows, L to R, 90gr Sierra MK, Hornady 88gr, 80gr, and 75gr .224 caliber bullets. David Hillis, Jr. 22, 6mm and 2 6.5s. We took the different bullet and powder combinations and loaded them up to the SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the 6.5 Creedmoor and 6 Creedmoor cartridges, which is 62,000 psi. Without exception, with every single load tested, bolt lift was effortless and primers showed no sign of excessive pressure with any loads listed. SUB-2000 Glock 19 vs 17. Fireformed Remington .22-250 AI brass holds 50.5 grains of water and a new Hornady .22 CM case 51.0 grains. Im going to find a CZ Model 550 and do a .22 Creedmoor build with it as the donor rifle. Now you try comparing the CCI 22 lr ballistics with the Winchester 22 lr ballistics and let me know what you discover. Comments on this site are submitted by users and are not endorsed by nor do they reflect the views or opinions of COLE Publishing, Inc. A MAGPUL magazine well kit was added. One that comes to mind is at 4:56 in the video. The bullet weight of Remington Golden Bullet Ammunition is 36 grains; therefore its bullet weight is .08 ounces. Sierra bullets needs little introduction, as they produce some of the highest quality projectiles available today. There were four of us in our hunting party, so we split up and covered two sides of a long draw that seemed custom-made for a called song dog. That growth continues as of this writing, as the cartridge has now gone mainstream with hunters and shooters alike. The 22 CM drops below that 800 ft-lb threshold at between 600 to 775 yards depending on the bullet and velocity of Copper Creek's different offerings. Only users with topic management privileges can see it. Therefore, in the Maximum Pressure Load Data section listed above, we were only able to estimate the pressure each load produced in the rifle. There is a simple reason why. The bullet demonstrated excellent expansion. I love mine. A 22 Creedmoor for deer will work as well as any 6mm or 6.5mm caliber, and sometimes even beter out at longer distances.
West Leagues Club New Lambton Dress Code, Articles OTHER
West Leagues Club New Lambton Dress Code, Articles OTHER